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of winning back the house, they don't want to go there. republicans have a big flank of new members elected on a pledge of no new taxes. nobody is dealing with reality. anybody on this panel, two of us could make a deal, but they cannot. >> why can they not make a deal, charles? >> you saw it in the clip you showed. nancy pelosi is the classic definition of a reaction. liberal. no changes in programs, entitlements. -- classic definition of a reactionary at liberal. no genocide programs, entitlements. if you all make -- note changes in programs, entitlements. if you don't make changes, he will wreck the economy, and everybody over the age of nine knows that. is that they are not willing to means test -- if they are not willing to means test entitlements, which you think and liberal alike, who always argue in terms of sharing the sacrifice and the rich bearing the burden, nothing will happen. >> colby? >> you just had exhibit number one of why they have not been able to reach a deal, as my friend charles expressed. if you start out with nancy pelosi and the position of republicans on tax incr
on the debt. so let's hear him say in public once. >> why is it that when he offered the big deal, the $4 trillion deal -- >> the grand bargain. >> the grand bargain, republicans backed away from it. >> when did he offer that? >> he offered it last week. >> where? >> he did it publicly. bamut give me a number. >> in a matter of two days, republicans backed away from that and said they did not want it. >> you accept everything he says, the $4 trillion deal. if you do not have a single item in it that you can enunciate. >> i am not at the table. perhaps you are, but i am not. >> how can you expect america to accept something in which he explains nothing? >> can we hear from mark? >> can this marriage be saved. >> i hope not. >> john boehner believed there was a $4 trillion deal. john boehner is not a naive newcomer to washington. he has been around. but john boehner also knows some history. the last time we had a major budget deal that by every definition work was bill clinton in 1993. without a single republican voting party in the house and senate. it included twice as much in tax increas
' point is white. these are tiny, tiny little drops in a big ocean. there is not enough in corporate jets or even the hedge fund guys, although i would like to. they have to raise revenues, i hate to say it, on the middle class. this is the point that gets lost on this. everybody is in this boat. there is no way out of it unless every single american does something. >> raise revenues on the shrinking middle class, mark. >> everybody is in it, and evan is right -- evan addressed the possibility of default. when that happens, the federal government of the united states, which bars or 40 cents of every dollar we spend every single day, is faced with the option -- do you pay a sergeant in combat in kandahar, a grandmother with a 1-bedroom apartment in social security check, or to meet the obligations of bankers who are holding their debt in beijing and beverly hills? the answer is simple. the prior claim is on the second group. the reality is we are talking about -- the president is proposing increasing taxes, revenues, by 1% over the next 10 years. $400 billion. we are going to collect $39 t
-- >> what are you suggesting? >> exactly what you think. >> paul tsongas had cancer. there was a big difference between cancer and migraines. if we are going to hold up a standard that if you have a headache that knocks you out for an hour or two, you cannot be president, fdr and kennedy, who had addison's disease, and eisenhower, who had a bad heart, would never have been president of the united states. i am not sure that is the position any of us would want to take. i think her answer was good, i think based on the evidence -- is their behavioral evidence of this woman not being able -- >> just be a cautionary. >> well, cautionary is fine -- >> i don't know the capitol hill physicians but i don't think it is fair to imply that somehow this is a less qualified individual. >> i'm not saying that. >> what about rick perry? >> rick . looks more and more like he is going to come into the race. -- rick perry looks more and more like he is going to come into the race. mike huckabee, a conservative finalist in 2008 against john mccain, has taken a shot at him, saying he will be the champio
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